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So, Labirinto is run by Lucifer. Who is using the power garnered from you buying his stuff to rebuild his body and build a weapon that'll start a gigantic war in the 12 Dimensions.

Someone got any ideas?

Date: 2010-11-07 02:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thefrozenstorm.livejournal.com
... One would never be able to guess that.

I am a regular at that store, and the owner is very kind.

To be honest, do you even have any proof of your claim?

Date: 2010-11-07 02:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ogrewarrior.livejournal.com
*Have some pictures of the backroom of the shop*

Other than those, that's it. Me and Yuuki heard everything else.

Date: 2010-11-07 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thefrozenstorm.livejournal.com
... Hm. Pictures of what they keep or have say nothing, you realize.

While I would trust Juudai's statements, I can't say I trust yours.

Especially since you seem to agree with killing those who work there, and then burning down the store.

Date: 2010-11-07 02:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ogrewarrior.livejournal.com
Then go ask him yourself. I realize I'm a drunk old man and I ain't got the pull here he does.

Date: 2010-11-07 02:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thefrozenstorm.livejournal.com
Hm. Even Juudai, I suspect, would want a far less crude and inhumane option.

Date: 2010-11-07 03:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-like-red.livejournal.com
Yeah, I agree that doing something like that isn't an option, if something is done, I agree with Suguru that it needs to be a smart well-thought out plan.

But I can back everything being said here, about the store and it's owner, as true.

Date: 2010-11-07 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thefrozenstorm.livejournal.com
... hm... So he aims to start a war?

Date: 2010-11-07 03:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-like-red.livejournal.com
Well, their aim seems to be more settling a score. The owner kept saying he dislikes war, yet they know their actions will set off a war anyway!

Date: 2010-11-07 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thefrozenstorm.livejournal.com
... Hm. That would have been better to clarify.

This journal's owner's statements more make it seem like it is a purposeful desire to start a conflict, and drag everyone else into it-- settling a score is different, even if there's an effect to it. It, at least, then holds the weight of it just being that: "cause and effect".

Though, certainly, it is... Unsettling. Especially to know that a store I've been going to for months with no incident is apparently aiming for anything of the sort.

Date: 2010-11-07 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-like-red.livejournal.com
Yeah, I agree that probably should of been clarified. It's why the situation is a difficult one and why we're searching for opinions.

Date: 2010-11-07 03:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thefrozenstorm.livejournal.com
... It honestly makes me wonder if there's anything else that was not clarified in this. Hm...

It is difficult. Honestly, I find it... Very difficult to believe, but I'll trust your statement that it's true.

All I really ask though is... "Why"?

Date: 2010-11-07 03:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-like-red.livejournal.com
I think everything else has been mentioned.

Hm? Do you mean why we're looking for opinions?

Date: 2010-11-07 03:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thefrozenstorm.livejournal.com
No, I mean... Why are they doing this, exactly?

Revenge is one thing, but what specifically occurred?

Date: 2010-11-07 04:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-like-red.livejournal.com
I don't know the history well at all, but from what I've gathered, they got kicked out of the Sanctuary in the Sky and now they want to shoot back. The owner said they erased him from history or something like that.

Date: 2010-11-07 04:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thefrozenstorm.livejournal.com
... I honestly have to wonder why they were kicked out.

... Hm. Maybe the fact that there's nothing related to "Lucifer" in Duel Monsters as a whole, might be related to the "erasing from history"?

Date: 2010-11-07 04:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-like-red.livejournal.com
Yeah, I know what you mean.

I that might be the case.

Date: 2010-11-07 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thefrozenstorm.livejournal.com
Hm... This is still a very troublesome point. Admittedly, I can't consider how to help in this... But I am still against what is basically a "kill them all" option.

Date: 2010-11-07 04:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-like-red.livejournal.com
Yeah, I definitely want to avoid anything like that option.

Date: 2010-11-07 03:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ogrewarrior.livejournal.com
I bet.

That's why I haven't gone and DONE it yet and am asking for suggestions.

Date: 2010-11-07 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thefrozenstorm.livejournal.com
Then don't act like the first one to suggest killing and property damage is the only one with common sense here.

Date: 2010-11-07 03:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ogrewarrior.livejournal.com
I'm not going to just let them go and I don't like being called racist.

I hate everyone with equal vigor.

Date: 2010-11-07 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thefrozenstorm.livejournal.com
... why do I even try. I'll continue to speak with Juudai instead.

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